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WHO WILL TEACH US THE TRUTH?
by The Searcher in8/15p.23par.14unitedfruitbearers just as the anointed "branches" of the "true vine" must remain in union with christ, the "other sheep" must remain in close union with "the faithful and discreet slave," christs anointed "brothers.
" only thus can they hope to inherit the kingdom prepared for them from the founding of the world.
w838/15p.24par.16unitedfruitbearersthe facts indicate that this grafting in went on until the mid-1930s.
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8/15p.23par.14UnitedFruitBearers Just as the anointed "branches" of the "true vine" must remain in union with Christ, the "other sheep" must remain in close union with "the faithful and discreet slave," Christ’s anointed "brothers." Only thus can they hope to ‘inherit the Kingdom prepared for them from the founding of the world.’ w838/15p.24par.16UnitedFruitBearersThe facts indicate that this grafting in went on until the mid-1930’s. Today, at this late date, there is good reason to believe that the "full number" of both Jewish and Gentile branches has been grafted in.w092/15pp.24-25par.4They"KeepFollowingtheLamb" Yes, Jehovah provides direction to the slave. We can therefore have full confidence in the Scriptural insight, understanding, and guidance that we receive from the slave. w107/15p.23par.10"TheSpiritSearchesInto...theDeepThingsofGod" When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of "the faithful and discreet slave" at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood.w109/15p.8par.7EarnestlySeekJehovah’sBlessing Jesus Christ proved to be the primary part of Abraham’s "seed." Anointed Christians form the secondary part of that foretold "seed." They have been commissioned to "declare abroad the excellencies of the one that called [them] out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Gal. 3:7-9, 14, 16, 26-29; 1 Pet. 2:9) We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of "the faithful and discreet slave," we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it.
rs p.234LastDays The present wicked system of things, which extends worldwide, entered its last days in 1914, and some of the generation alive then will also be on hand to witness its complete end in the "great tribulation."
w85 12/1 p. 9 par. 4 Declared Righteous " for Life
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9/15p.14par.18Listen—Jehovah’sWatchman Speaks! The antitypical ‘man in linen’ is the class of anointed Christians. They go from house to house to put a symbolic mark on those who become part of the "great crowd" of Christ’s "other sheep." The "mark" is the evidence that such sheep are dedicated, baptized individuals with a Christlike personality. They ‘sigh and groan over detestable things’ done in Christendom.w57
6/15p.370par.7OverseersofJehovah’s People It is vital that we appreciate this fact, and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of God.w104/15p.10par.13HolySpirit’sRoleintheOutworkingofJehovah’sPurpose Third, holy spirit is at work in bringing Bible truths to light. (Prov. 4:18) This magazine has long been used by "the faithful and discreet slave" as the primary channel for dispensing increased light. (Matt. 24:45) For example, consider our understanding of those who make up "this generation" mentioned by Jesus.
w107/15p.20par.1"TheSpiritSearchesInto...theDeepThingsofGod" The apostle Paul highlighted another vital role that the holy spirit plays: "The spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God." (1 Cor. 2:10) Indeed, Jehovah uses his holy spirit to reveal deep spiritual truths . Without this help, where would we be in our understanding of Jehovah’s purposes? (Read1 Corinthians2:9-12.)
w107/15p.20par.2"TheSpiritSearchesInto...theDeepThingsofGod" Jesus indicated a twofold way in which the spirit would operate. "The helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you." (John 14:26) The holy spirit would thus act as a teacher and as a remembrancer.
w092/15pp.24-25par.4They"KeepFollowingtheLamb" Yes, Jehovah provides direction to the slave. We can therefore have full confidence in the Scriptural insight, understanding, and guidance that we receive from the slave.
w107/15p.23par.10"TheSpiritSearchesInto...theDeepThingsofGod" When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of "the faithful and discreet slave" at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood.
w109/15p.8par.7EarnestlySeekJehovah’sBlessing Jesus Christ proved to be the primary part of Abraham’s "seed." Anointed Christians form the secondary part of that foretold "seed." They have been commissioned to "declare abroad the excellencies of the one that called [them] out of darkness into his wonderful light." (Gal. 3:7-9, 14, 16, 26-29; 1 Pet. 2:9) We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of "the faithful and discreet slave," we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it.
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Oh Oh, the Other Sheep must be 'Weeds'
by The Searcher intoday's watchtower study article makes a definitive statement;the anointed are the "wheat".
that must mean that the 'other sheep' are part of the "weed" class, because only two groups are mentioned regarding christ's judgement.. can i respectfully suggest to anyone at hq who reads this; find out what the bible really teaches, and heed christ's stark warnings at revelation chapters 2 & 3.. .
wheat and weeds grow together.
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Today's Watchtower study article makes a definitive statement;the ANOINTED are the "wheat". That must mean that the 'Other Sheep' are part of the "weed" class, because only two groups are mentioned regarding Christ's judgement.
Can I respectfully suggest to anyone at HQ who reads this; find out what the BIBLE really teaches, and heed Christ's stark warnings at Revelation chapters 2 & 3.
“ WH EAT” AND “WEEDS” GROW TOGETHER
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In a parable, Jesus indicated that from the first century onward, there would always be some genuine anointed Christians on the earth. He compared
them to “wheat” growing among “weeds.” (Matt. 13:30) Of course, we cannot say for certain which individuals or groups belonged to the anointed
wheat class, but we can confirm that there have always been some who have courageously defended God’s Word and exposed the church’s unscriptural
teachings.
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Why can we conclude that from the first century onward, there must always have been some genuine anointed Christians on earth?
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No Governing Body in Paul's day
by The Searcher inthe given understanding of the bible account at acts 15 regarding the circumcision issue is that a "governing body" resolved the issue.
is this assertion based on scriptural evidence?
while jesus walked the earth, some of his apostles were contentious with each other regarding who would be superior to the others.
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The given understanding of the Bible account at Acts 15 regarding the circumcision issue is that a "governing body" resolved the issue. Is this assertion based on Scriptural evidence?
While Jesus walked the earth, some of his Apostles were contentious with each other regarding who would be superior to the others. Equality was clearly not on their minds.
Did this attitude persist after Christ returned to heaven? These questions are answered when Paul's words at Galatians 2:1-9 are examined closely.
Verse 1:
Paul speaks about going up to Jerusalem "after fourteen years". For a "district overseer" like Paul, fourteen years is a long time to ignore a "governing body"!!! The truth is, it was the Holy Spirit who directed Paul, not a group of men. What impelled Paul to go and see these elders in Jerusalem?
Verse 2
tells us:Because of a revelation by Jehovah's Holy Spirit! Why did Jehovah "reveal" something to Paul and not to a "spirit-anointed governing body"?
Verse 4
Because false brothers had been brought in by some in Jerusalem, apparently to cause problems to Paul's ministry of teaching the nations. Also, they were spying on Paul, trying to subvert him and bring him under control of men in Jerusalem. Exactly who brought these ones in is not known, but whoever it was, they must have had some authority and prominence within the Jerusalem congregation in order to do so.
Clearly, there was corruption within the ranks of the men in Jerusalem, and Paul, along with Barnabas and Titus were directed by the Holy Spirit to go up to Jerusalem and sort this out.
Verses 5, 6 & 9
show exactly how Paul viewed some of the men in Jerusalem - not as a God-appointed governing body, but rather as self-seeking men. Note his words -"to these we did not yield", "those who seemed to be something", whatever sort of men they formerly were", "to me, in fact, those outstanding men imparted nothing new".
If these were God's anointed governing body, Paul would have been directed by Holy Spirit to yield.
Paul describes them as men who seemed to be something - in other words, not what they appeared to be.
He also made it clear that he was not impressed by their past histories - perhaps their association with Christ - because he stated that they told him nothing new!
He refers to them as "outstanding" men, but it is evident that he did not consider them as such.
He describes Peter, James and John as "ones who seemed to be pillars", thereby indicating that he had reservations.
Galatians 2:11
reveals further evidence that Peter was not viewed by Paul as part of a "governing body". No one in Jerusalem could "govern" Paul's understanding.Verse 9
says "they gave me and Bar´na·bas the right hand of sharing together". This does not indicate that they were directed by a governing body as to their ministry. (the Spirit had already done that) It simply highlights the fact that "joint participation, or sharing together, was also denoted by a handshake or grasping of another’s hand". (it-1p.217)
By examining Galatians 2:1-9, it becomes very clear that Jehovah used Paul to resolve the dispute about circumcision, not a "governing body" whom Paul clearly had to stand up to when given divine direction. The term Governing Body neither appears nor is implied in the Bible.
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Dilemma For Active Witnesses
by The Searcher inon examining the scriptural reasoning cited in the passage below, should our conscience allow us to invite people to be "observers" at a ritual which presents falsehoods as truth?.
the evening before jesus died, he instigated a new covenant which was to be celebrated with wine and unleavened bread.
(matthew 12:50) these scriptures reflect each other, for since christ is the son of god (mark 3:11, john 1:34) and we are sons of god as well, this would make us brothers to christ.
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On examining the Scriptural reasoning cited in the passage below, should our conscience allow us to invite people to be "observers" at a ritual which presents falsehoods as truth?
The evening before Jesus died, he instigated a new covenant which was to be celebrated with wine and unleavened bread. This would replace the old covenant. He told his followers to 'keep doing this in remembrance of me'. When Jesus replaced the Law Covenant with the New Covenant, he plainly explained to all 12 of his apostles, Judas included, that they were to drink the wine because "this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins".(Matthew 26:28) He said that his "blood of the covenant" was to be poured out in behalf of many, not just 144,000. Once Judas had partaken of the emblems of the New Covenant, Jesus dismissed him, and only then concluded a separate covenant, one for a kingdom. (Luke 22:17-30) Like Moses, Jesus did not use any emblems or ritual to inaugurate the priesthood covenant. Participants of the new covenant, through Jesus' sacrifice, have their sins forgiven permanently by Jehovah and have the hope of everlasting life, either on the earth or in heaven as priests. (Heb. 10:12) Having an understanding of the covenants helps to make crystal clear the simplicity of Jesus' words at Luke 22:30 and John's words at Revelation 7:4 concerning those taken out of Israel to judge those who are left. We are all sons of God through our faith in Jesus Christ, (Matt. 5:9; Matt. 6:9; Mark 3:35; Luke 8:21; John 1:12; John 15:13-15; Rom. 8:14; Rom. 5:19; 2 Cor. 6:17; Galatians 3:26; Rev. 7:4) because all who have been baptized into Christ (Matthew 28:19) have put on Christ. (Galatians 3:27) Jesus also said that those who do the will of God are his brothers. (Matthew 12:50) These scriptures reflect each other, for since Christ is the son of God (Mark 3:11, John 1:34) and we are sons of God as well, this would make us brothers to Christ. That is why we address Jehovah as "our Father".
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ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AT BROOKLYN
by The Searcher inthe 2012 calendar encourages all to examine "for family discussion" aspects of the covenants.
do that - but base your study on the bible only, and then you will form a true understanding of the covenants, especially the new covenant.
on the january/february page, this question is asked, "would abraham's seed prove to be just one individual, or would it be a composite seed?".
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The 2012 calendar encourages all to examine "For Family Discussion" aspects of the Covenants. Do that - but base your study on the Bible only, and then you will form a true understanding of the covenants, especially the New covenant. On the JANUARY/FEBRUARY page, this question is asked, "Would Abraham's seed prove to be just one individual, or would it be a composite seed?". Prepare yourself for a shocking revelation - the Apostle Paul categorically, and unequivocally stated under inspiration of God's Holy Spirit, "Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. It says, not: "And to seeds," as in the case of many such, but as in the case of one: "And to your seed," who is Christ". (Galatians 3:16) However, the Apostle and the Holy Spirit must have got it wrong, because the "given" understanding is that it was a "composite" seed, composing of 144,000. That's 144,000 more than Paul was directed to teach us would bring about all the blessings on the earth. What does 'The Bible Really Teach'? Not ONE of the 144,000 has caused forgiveness of sins; not ONE has redeemed any human; not ONE has ever reconciled a human to Jehovah; not ONE will bring about ANY of God's promises - why not? Because, "For no matter how many the promises of God are, they have become Yes by means of him." (2 Cor. 1:20) By him, and him alone!!! The heavenly priesthood will be used to administer the benefits of Christ's ransom, not provide them. It is arrogant in the extreme to claim credit that belongs solely to the Christ! Now examine the 'Elephant in the Room; it is taught (and believed by most) that the 'Israel of God' (Gal. 6:16) applies only to the anointed, the 144,000 who will form the heavenly priesthood. This teaching is based on the erroneous and unscriptural claim that only natural Israelites were party to the Law Covenant, and that "the vast mixed crowd" who came out of Egypt along with them, were not. Where in the Bible is there a single verse which states that those two "groups" were separated when the covenant was offered by Moses for acceptance? There is not one, and the Scriptures state that all the people answered with one voice. (Exodus 24:3) "FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN"; in the MARCH/APRIL pages of the calendar, it says that the Law Covenant "helped to preserve the promised line of the seed". Why didn't Rahab & Ruth corrupt that "natural" Israelite, Messianic family tree? They were a Canaanitess and a Moabitess, not "natural" Israelites. The answer - they became Israelites due to their faith, just as all those who joined the Exodus became Israelites in God's eyes. The priesthood in Moses time was taken from the full nation of Israel; likewise, the heavenly priesthood is taken out of the full nation of the "Israel of God" and will judge the remainder of that 'nation' remaining on the earth. (Rev. 7:4; Luke 22:30)
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FALSE REASONING ON ROMANS 6:7
by The Searcher ininterpreting romans 6:7 as literal instead of figurative, makes adamic death equal to christ's ransom, thus negating his death.. devil's advocate:.
how is reconciliation with god made possible?by having a clean standing due to one's sins being wiped out.
adamic death wipes out sins, therefore adamic death is the means by which reconciliation with god is made possible!!
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Interpreting Romans 6:7 as literal instead of figurative, makes Adamic death equal to Christ's ransom, thus negating his death.
How is reconciliation with God made possible?
Devil's Advocate:
By having a clean standing due to one's sins being wiped out. Adamic death wipes out sins , therefore Adamic death is the means by which reconciliation with God is made possible!! Corrupt reasoning folks - do some research in the Scriptures, NOT the literature!
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FALSE REASONING ON ROMANS 6:7
by The Searcher ininterpreting romans 6:7 as literal instead of figurative, makes adamic death equal to christ's ransom, thus negating his death.. devil's advocate:.
how is reconciliation with god made possible?by having a clean standing due to one's sins being wiped out.
adamic death wipes out sins, therefore adamic death is the means by which reconciliation with god is made possible!!
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Interpreting Romans 6:7 as literal instead of figurative, makes Adamic death equal to Christ's ransom, thus negating his death.
Devil's Advocate:
How is reconciliation with God made possible?By having a clean standing due to one's sins being wiped out. Adamic death wipes out sins , therefore Adamic death is the means by which reconciliation with God is made possible!! Corrupt reasoning folks - do some research in the Scriptures, NOT the literature!
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SERIOUS CONTRADICTION & DENIAL OF SCRIPTURE
by The Searcher inwhat the insight book says about luke's writings:.
"a comparison of matthew 26:20-29 with john 13:21-30 indicates that he departed before jesus instituted the celebration of the lords evening meal.
lukes presentation of this incident evidently is not in strict chronological order, for judas had definitely left by the time christ commended the group for having stuck with him; that would not fit judas, nor would he have been taken into the "covenant for a kingdom.
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What the Insight book says about Luke's writings:
it-2 p. 130 - "Immediately Judas left the group'. "A comparison of Matthew 26:20-29 with John 13:21-30 indicates that he departed before Jesus instituted the celebration of the Lord’s Evening Meal. Luke’s presentation of this incident evidently is not in strict chronological order , for Judas had definitely left by the time Christ commended the group for having stuck with him; that would not fit Judas, nor would he have been taken into the "covenant for a kingdom."—Lu 22:19-30.
(Judas left after having taken the bread & wine of the New Covenant, as instructed by Jesus, then he left before the Kingdom Covenant was concluded. Luke was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write this account. Did Luke & the Holy Spirit get it wrong? )
What the All Scripture book says about Luke's writings:
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THE Gospel of Luke was written by a man with a keen mind and a kind heart, and this fine blend of qualities, with the guidance of God’s spirit, has resulted in an account that is both accurate and full of warmth and feeling. In the opening verses, he says, "I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them in logical order to you."
His detailed, meticulous presentation fully bears out this claim.
—Luke 1:3.Judas being included in the New Covenant creates a conflict with "explained" doctrine.
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HOW THE "other sheep" ARE INFERIOR
by The Searcher inthey are not ambassadors substituting for christ.
(2 cor.
5:20) they are not part of the new covenant.
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They are not ambassadors substituting for Christ. (2 Cor. 5:20) They are not part of the New Covenant. (Matt. 26:28) They are not reconciled as 'Sons of God'. (Gal. 3:26, Rom. 8:16) They are not viewed as 'Christ's Brothers'. (Matt. 12:49,50) They are not 'a people for God's name' . (Acts 15:14) They were not chosen to 'declare abroad the excellencies' (1 Pet. 2:9) (w98 3/15 p. 13 par. 6) They are not part of these congregations. (Rev. ch. 2 & 3) They are not part of "the Israel of God" . (Gal. 6:16) (Matt. 19:28 & Rev. 7:4) They must accept the G.Bs. voice as Jehovah's. (w57 6/15 p. 370 par. 7) The G.Bs. position is equal to Jehovah's! (w56 6/1 p. 346 par. 11) They must view the G.Bs. leadership as Christ's. (w10 9/15 p. 23 par. 8) (Matt. 23:10) They must view the G.B. etc. as priests now!! (w 12 1/15 p. 29 par. 14) The anointed on earth are already holy. (w00 5/15 p. 14 par. 26) The G.B. must be viewed as right in all Bible teachings (w 01 1/8 p. 14 par. 8) Anointed are already righteous and holy as Christ’s bride. (w02 2/1 p. 21 par. 11) Anointed are Jehovah's witnesses, not the other sheep. (w98 2/1 p. 17 par. 16) The 'people for God's name' are only the 144,000. (ws chap. 13 p. 112 par. 14) Jesus only mediates for a 144,000 individuals. (ws chap. 1 pp. 10-11 par. 16)
Jesus said, "And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd".
"Like Timothy, true Christians today are keeping their senses by rejecting human reasoning and by accepting only Scriptural authority for their doctrinal beliefs".
(1 John 4:1) w043/1p. 6 . (John 10:16)